It is ludicrous to assume that these atheists like harris, hitchens, and dawkins are somehow intelligent, or bright by the way they put words together. theirs are not sophisticated books intellectually. All their unverified arguments are in most part angry, bitter diatribes against religion. And one who takes their words as gospel is merely relating to their anger and bitterness without the required objectiveness of evaluating an argument.
I’ve always been suspicious of two axioms of biblical belief:
1. Inerrancy.
2. Literalism.
I think that the problem is that people have been using the phrase “unerring word of god” for so long that it’s almost like they can’t take it back – they’ve passed the point of no return.
What this does is opens up hundreds of questions from both #1 and #2.
Just seems far easier to focus on the message rather than the metrics.
@Pat ,what percentage of your country is atheist? “We are all religious in one way or another”? Thats not true .We where all born atheists though is very true !
@flyingscience
what ever about some of your forefathers
does not dispute what i said about you county’s frame work , and please don’t confuse that with been Chistian perse
@SuperPatrick777 Wtch this video about the founding fathers dislike of religion .”America a Christian Nation: Fact or Myth?” There are many like that thats the first I found .Challange what youve been told in Sunday school.
@SuperPatrick777 Look at the “atheist experience “video series . Matt Dilahunty was studying to be an Evangelical preacher then deconverted due to his studies!
@SuperPatrick777 Pat Atheists are more behaved have less crime , they are book worms .This is a fact -easily verified . Communist forced atheism(which didnt work) is not the same as educated atheist .
@flyingscience
if you had more knowlege you would not think as you do there has been scoffers like you since recorded history like solomon once said ” there is nothing new under the sun” …..
@SuperPatrick777 Be more specific and I will dig up video titles about what you are skeptical about . I love popping religious bubbles(people live in) .Knowledge does that .
@SuperPatrick777 You do know that a big percentage of the founding fathers where not religious or where deists .Seperation of church in state was paramount to them .
@SuperPatrick777 Pat the fun thing about arguing on the internet is that the points can be confirmed with just a simple google search . Do your homework dont take my word for it .
@flyingscience
that is a load of codswollop it is by a judeo/Christian framework you got your freedom in the first place and the more atheistic it gets the more dictoriol [ like commonism ] it will get and you will find suiside and lawlessness will abound …
There are many countries where atheism is 50 % the population or above . Those countries have the highest wealth and education standards . You can read more about it .
@SuperPatrick777 Christianity gained huge numbers by brute force/ state mandatory religion and mind terrorism of hell threats .Atheism grows by simple literacy of science /history and curiosity .
@SuperPatrick777 Christians on Earth are 2 .1 Billion ,Atheism and non religious are 1 .1 Billion . Atheisms growth is far faster than Christianities .
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It is ludicrous to assume that these atheists like harris, hitchens, and dawkins are somehow intelligent, or bright by the way they put words together. theirs are not sophisticated books intellectually. All their unverified arguments are in most part angry, bitter diatribes against religion. And one who takes their words as gospel is merely relating to their anger and bitterness without the required objectiveness of evaluating an argument.
Now we get to the crux of it, on a level anyway.
I’ve always been suspicious of two axioms of biblical belief:
1. Inerrancy.
2. Literalism.
I think that the problem is that people have been using the phrase “unerring word of god” for so long that it’s almost like they can’t take it back – they’ve passed the point of no return.
What this does is opens up hundreds of questions from both #1 and #2.
Just seems far easier to focus on the message rather than the metrics.
My 2c.
Good debate
@Pat ,what percentage of your country is atheist? “We are all religious in one way or another”? Thats not true .We where all born atheists though is very true !
@flyingscience
what ever about some of your forefathers
does not dispute what i said about you county’s frame work , and please don’t confuse that with been Chistian perse
@flyingscience
be assured we are all religious in one way or another ..
@SuperPatrick777 Wtch this video about the founding fathers dislike of religion .”America a Christian Nation: Fact or Myth?” There are many like that thats the first I found .Challange what youve been told in Sunday school.
@SuperPatrick777 Because you assumed I was never religious .
@flyingscience
so what does that prove a lot of people desconvert because they don’t like the bible and vise versa , nothing new about that ………
@flyingscience
it is just a bit more subtle that is all which makes it a site more dangerous ……
@SuperPatrick777 Look at the “atheist experience “video series . Matt Dilahunty was studying to be an Evangelical preacher then deconverted due to his studies!
@SuperPatrick777 Pat Atheists are more behaved have less crime , they are book worms .This is a fact -easily verified . Communist forced atheism(which didnt work) is not the same as educated atheist .
@flyingscience
if you had more knowlege you would not think as you do there has been scoffers like you since recorded history like solomon once said ” there is nothing new under the sun” …..
@flyingscience
it is still bult on a judeo Christan framework al the same …get rid of it at your own peril..
@SuperPatrick777 Be more specific and I will dig up video titles about what you are skeptical about . I love popping religious bubbles(people live in) .Knowledge does that .
@SuperPatrick777 You do know that a big percentage of the founding fathers where not religious or where deists .Seperation of church in state was paramount to them .
@flyingscience
you don’t seen to realise it is built on a judeo/Christian frame work .,
you people are in for a nasty shock …….
@SuperPatrick777 What point do you want me to prove to you ? There are entire videos on these subjects right now .
@SuperPatrick777 Pat the fun thing about arguing on the internet is that the points can be confirmed with just a simple google search . Do your homework dont take my word for it .
@flyingscience
if that is true than it validates the bible …..
@flyingscience
you are dreaming
@flyingscience
that is a load of codswollop it is by a judeo/Christian framework you got your freedom in the first place and the more atheistic it gets the more dictoriol [ like commonism ] it will get and you will find suiside and lawlessness will abound …
There are many countries where atheism is 50 % the population or above . Those countries have the highest wealth and education standards . You can read more about it .
@SuperPatrick777 Christianity gained huge numbers by brute force/ state mandatory religion and mind terrorism of hell threats .Atheism grows by simple literacy of science /history and curiosity .
@SuperPatrick777 Christians on Earth are 2 .1 Billion ,Atheism and non religious are 1 .1 Billion . Atheisms growth is far faster than Christianities .
@SuperPatrick777 You do realise how fast Evangical children are turning secular within the past 10 years ? 1/4th of Evangical children have left .